Origins of life

damien james · Post by **damien james** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 12:33 am

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Post by damien james » Sun Jun 18, 2006 12:33 am

Wow, that is old argument. Haven't seen that one pulled out in a while.

The hand of God may well be all around us, but it is not, nor can it be, the task of science to dust for fingerprints.

alextemplet · Post by **alextemplet** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 2:33 am

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Post by alextemplet » Sun Jun 18, 2006 2:33 am

If only I had a nickel for every time I heard that argument! :lol:

Generally speaking, the more people talk about "being saved," the further away they actually are from true salvation.

~Alex
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bpv · Post by **bpv** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 7:39 pm

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Post by bpv » Thu Jun 22, 2006 7:39 pm

I think, the above repetition will definitely occur again and again because the truth will never remain hidden under the debris for long. At constant intervels I think it will come up similarly.

My intention was not to argue but only, try to share some truth that I realized. Or even you can take it as a confession of a late atheistic evolutionist. Sorry I think, if I go deep it may go off topic.

I think throughout the tread we have discussed much.

Please check the URL's

http://www.answersingenesis.org/cec/docs/CvE_report.asp
http://www.icr.org/
http://www.creationresearch.org/
http://www.serve.com/herrmann/main.html
http://www.talkreason.org/

alextemplet · Post by **alextemplet** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 9:38 pm

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Post by alextemplet » Thu Jun 22, 2006 9:38 pm

I've seen all of those websites before, and forgive me for saying so but I find them to be of rather poor value as to the authenticity and accuracy of their information, AIG being one of the worst.

Generally speaking, the more people talk about "being saved," the further away they actually are from true salvation.

~Alex
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mith · Post by **mith** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 12:58 am

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Post by mith » Fri Jun 23, 2006 12:58 am

All have been rebutted at talkorigins.org. Maybe it's time you updated your sources?

Living one day at a time;
Enjoying one moment at a time;
Accepting hardships as the pathway to peace;
~Niebuhr

Linn · Post by **Linn** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:51 am

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Post by Linn » Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:51 am

mithrilhack wrote:All have been rebutted at talkorigins.org. Maybe it's time you updated your sources?

But rebuttel does not mean that one is right. Its still each persons views and theories, one which happens to be more popular.

Rarely, have I any thing new with the rebutltes either. So your right guys/gals same old same old.

remember theory may be proven wrong either way eventualy. Or maybe there is some truth to each? :wink:

PS the best opins are from the physicists and cosmologists. I think.
These people are REALLY deep thinking brainy people.

"How far you go in life depends on your being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of the weak and strong. Because someday in life you will have been all of these".

~ George washington Carver

alextemplet · Post by **alextemplet** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 3:09 am

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Post by alextemplet » Fri Jun 23, 2006 3:09 am

You're right, Linn, there is probably a little truth to both sides, but there are certain viewpoints that, I think, simply do not deserve to be taken seriously. The AIG website, as I mentioned before, is basically 99% mythology and does not in any way deserve to be treated as serious scientific material.

One thing discussion in this forum has taught me is how important it is to keep an open mind, but such a practice should be balanced against a desire to learn and appreciate truth, so viewpoints that are clearly untruthful do not need to be tolerated.

If I said that all known existence was just a television drama put on by a bunch of super-intelligent mice, and the "real world" includes such oddities as singing dolphins and pre-fabricated planets, it might very well be true, but who will actually believe it?

Generally speaking, the more people talk about "being saved," the further away they actually are from true salvation.

~Alex
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mith · Post by **mith** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 4:59 am

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Post by mith » Fri Jun 23, 2006 4:59 am

I don't think it's a popularity contest, in many cases the creationism claims are either clearly false or have no scientific backing.

For example when I searched in the answersingenesis.org archives, I found this article
http://www.answersingenesis.org/creatio ... namics.asp

Considering the rebuttal, perhaps creationists still don't understand physics, let alone biology.
http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CF/CF001_3.html

Living one day at a time;
Enjoying one moment at a time;
Accepting hardships as the pathway to peace;
~Niebuhr

alextemplet · Post by **alextemplet** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 3:26 pm

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Post by alextemplet » Fri Jun 23, 2006 3:26 pm

Or geology, either. AIG is one of those young-earth groups, and we all know what that means! They actually believe dinosaurs and man coexisted, and that it's somehow possible to see galaxies millions of light years away that were only created a few thousand years ago. But I'm not going into that again.

Generally speaking, the more people talk about "being saved," the further away they actually are from true salvation.

~Alex
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Linn · Post by **Linn** » Sat Jun 24, 2006 1:59 am

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Post by Linn » Sat Jun 24, 2006 1:59 am

Considering the rebuttal, perhaps creationists still don't understand physics, let alone biology.

In all Fairness lets not forget that many creationists ARE pysicists and biologists. :wink:

"How far you go in life depends on your being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of the weak and strong. Because someday in life you will have been all of these".

~ George washington Carver

alextemplet · Post by **alextemplet** » Sat Jun 24, 2006 3:32 am

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Post by alextemplet » Sat Jun 24, 2006 3:32 am

Methinks I doth see the origins of yet another bout of debateth.

Generally speaking, the more people talk about "being saved," the further away they actually are from true salvation.

~Alex
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Linn · Post by **Linn** » Sat Jun 24, 2006 11:01 pm

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Post by Linn » Sat Jun 24, 2006 11:01 pm

alextemplet wrote:Methinks I doth see the origins of yet another bout of debateth.

I feareth you speaketh the truth Sir. :wink:

"How far you go in life depends on your being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of the weak and strong. Because someday in life you will have been all of these".

~ George washington Carver

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