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Did plants or vegetables feel pain?

Postby Malroy on Fri Sep 07, 2007 8:41 am

Hi,

I'am a vegeterian, i wonder what today biolgy sad about feeling pain by plants? I will be greatfull for some professional answers. When I eat carrot, does this carrot feel pain?

PS. Sorry 4 my english ;)

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Postby kotoreru on Fri Sep 07, 2007 10:43 am

There's great debate over whether invertebrates feel pain, let alone plants. It all comes down to your definition of pain.
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Postby Malroy on Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:57 am

thx for reply, where is this debate?
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Postby kotoreru on Fri Sep 07, 2007 1:11 pm

Well in all honesty, I couldn't point you to any specific literature. However, a researcher at my old institution - Dr. Peter Skorupski - conducted research on pain in invertebrates.

You may wish to start there.
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Postby MrMistery on Fri Sep 07, 2007 1:30 pm

There was a very popular experiment done about ten years ago(i think) after action potentials were discovered in plants. A plant was wired to a device to measure electrical currents. when someone approached it with the intention of tearing a leaf away from the plant action potentials blew of the charts. But when someone approached it without any intention to harm the plant it did not produce any action potentials. The experiment has been criticized by many world renowned scientists who claimed scientific rules in carrying out experiments had been broken, and thus rejected its results.
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Postby harrypotter101 on Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:57 pm

I say they do. Think about it. They are also alive so they should feel some pain, like when you carve your name into a tree, break a limb or branch off, or chop it down.
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Postby said212 on Sat Oct 13, 2007 9:25 pm

I think so, based on the logic that they are living matter.
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Postby MrMistery on Sun Oct 14, 2007 11:14 am

so bacteria feel pain too?
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Plants do not feel pain

Postby kanzure on Sun Oct 14, 2007 2:35 pm

Plants do not feel pain- another discussion. Remember, plants do not have neural systems by definition.

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Postby kotoreru on Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:24 pm

Of course bacteria feel pain. *tut*
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