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miracles inside our cells

Postby config » Sat Feb 02, 2008 11:01 am

here's the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvgFICSW6Ks


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Not even wrong

Postby MrMistery » Sat Feb 02, 2008 3:40 pm

Generally what ID proponents do is take correct information and interpret it to their use. What that movie does is present wrong information that they think is going to make their point more valid.
The number one mistake they make(INTENTIONALLY) is that of saying "Hey, we did not know that and this back when the theory of evolution was originally proposed. Therefore evolution is wrong". That is incorrect for so many reasons. First of all, evolution is not the same theory it was when Lamark, Darwin and all the others originally imagined it. Like any scientific theory, evolution has greatly grown and evolved since it was born. One of my favorite analogies is to compare evolution with gravity. From Newton's original idea to the idea that of objects curbing space-time to a quantum gravity theory, only the principle remains the same. Likewise, only the principle of natural selection and a few other concepts have remained the same in the theory of evolution. Biogeography, biochemistry, population genetics and a load of other sciences have brought great contributions to the theory of evolution, which unlike what ID proponents say, is not in trouble because of biochemistry. Quite the contrary really.
Like I said before: an apple falling is a fact. Gravity is a theory.

Here are a few other stupid things from that movie
Early proponents of evolution thought that live had a simple form, and that this simple form can originate by itself by chance.

Do they really know what evolution is? Do they know what natural selection is? I don't see what this has to do with natural selection.

Only beneficial molecules can enter a cell. A virus is blocked.

So good, viruses aren't really a threat. I spent a truckload of money on Tamiflu for nothing.

Shows hormones that enter the cell. When they get inside the cell, they are taken by enzymes that, if necessary, put them to work. If they are not needed, they are saved for later in the Golgi apparatus.

What is this about? Hormones either cross the bilayer or bind to a receptor on the PM to initiate a transduction pathway. I will not even get into how stupid the last sentence is.

Enzymes receive sugar molecules from the insulin molecule, which they take to the mitochondria. The duty of the mitochondria is to break down the energy containing molecules they receive and process them.

Insulin does not give sugars to the cell, does it? It signals the mitochondria to degrade the sugars already present. Which by the way need to enter glycolysis first.

A group of enzymes divide the DNA strand into two.(before transcription)

Simply wrong.

This so complex system could not have originated by chance. When the details of cell biology were revealed, the theory of evolution suffered a great blow.

Not true. Especially annoying to me cause it sounds like communist propaganda.

The theory of evolution fails to explain the designs of bodies of living things. [...] An insect might resemble a leaf, so it can camouflage itself.

If that insect looking like a leaf is not a good example of evolution, I don't know what is...
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miracles inside our cells

Postby bbrubaker » Fri Feb 08, 2008 10:14 pm

This video = another case of Christians throwing stones from their glass houses?
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Postby MrMistery » Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:00 pm

don't use the word Christian for this context. I am a Christian and, as you can see I don't believe bull like that
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Postby alextemplet » Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:07 pm

So am I. Why is it that our faith always gets blamed for bull like this?
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Postby MrMistery » Sun Feb 24, 2008 8:40 pm

Because creationists try to say that their theory derives from the teachings of God. Which of course isn't true, but it makes some people interpret that if you are a Christian you need to accept stuff like that
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Postby Darwin420 » Fri Mar 07, 2008 4:11 am

Interesting video, I don't like how they automatically resort to stating there is a creator just because at the moment, the origin of the complexity of the molecular process of living things is beyond our explanation. Not knowing is a creative state of mind, thus being said, it is always important to resist coming up with conclusions with no proof (i.e. a creator).
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Postby MrMistery » Sat Mar 08, 2008 9:46 am

especially when in the majority of cases, the origin of the complexity of the molecular processes of living things is NOT beyond our explanation
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Postby Darwin420 » Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:34 pm

Yea, you are right.
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Postby snjajkBill » Thu Mar 20, 2008 12:55 pm

Especially annoying to me cause it sounds like communist propaganda.
you know I think this video can be explained in a Psychology way
and by the way "Not true. Especially annoying to me cause it sounds like communist propaganda. "
I am listening communist propaganda everyday It's funny in fact
Mabey it is because evolution
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